Thursday, March 8, 2012

KONY 2012

When I saw the KONY 2012 flooding my facebook newsfeed, I knew I needed to find out what it was and research so I could make my own mind up about it, instead of being emotionally swayed by the video, like most people. I decided to write a status update of Facebook (which I regret it some ways) about how I felt about it. Please note: I should not have said phony, questionable was what I should have originally said!
 MY QUESTION:
I too knew Kony 2012 was phony from the start. We need to question everything we see and do our research!
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION AS IS:

    • Talei Rose Vulatha Define phony? I have worked with IC before. There is alot of misguided and unsubstantiated evidence being played out on 'both sides', if you dare to trivialise the issue in such a way. So disappointing to watch what has been such a dear cause to many people I have worked with to be shredded apart by social media.
      4 hours ago · · 1

    • Ingrid Brooks Perhaps phony wasn't the word to use-questionable? I'm absolutely entitled to my opinion and I respect yours. People r just so impressionable. Great filmmakers they are and important cause but the way in which this has been approached through the social media platforms is questionable to me. There are many articles and news forums questioning the legitimacy if invisible children Inc. They have actually admitted that 31% of donations only go to the actual project-include administration etc. What do they do with the rest of the money? Over 2 million was written off for travel expenses and film making.

      I believe the action being taken on social media platforms around the world is not the right kind of action.

      Is it right that one day many may be faced with the news that they were responsible for the hunting down and killing of this man? The documentary seen by millions of people neglects to state that thousands of, if not more deaths may result if we use further resources to seek Everyone just wants to fight to kill the bad guy (and he is evil), But going ahead with it without realising the actual situation is questionable. This situation requires a "meticulous diplomatic resolution".

      Many of my friends on facey advocated for “Stop Kony 2012, this week but would they be able to find Uganda on a map?

      “The idea that popular opinion can be leveraged with viral marketing to induce foreign military intervention is really, really dangerous,” says a Ph.D. student Jack McDonald from King’s College in London. It is known all too well that social media can bring about significant and violent change in volatile regions (i.e. Arab Spring). Moreover, everyone knows how fast events, memes, protests or ideas can spread on social media. Social media brings out an immediate visceral response, not necessarily an educated one. People need to think before they “like.”

      So I apologize Talei, I should have said questionable. Phony was not the right word to use. This is my opinion and I am absolutely entitled to it, as u r to yours...and I respect that.

      3 hours ago · · 3

    • Jenna Gleeson I think social media wasnt and isnt the way to go about it but that doesnt define that the whole situation is phony?! Nor does the fact that only 30% of the money goes to the right place.. its not about either of those things but what joseph kony DOES do to those people and that those people HAVE and are suffering because of it and it needs to be and should be stopped!! Whether it does or doesnt work is a different story... But i cant c how anyone in their right mind would make up such a thing and get the ugandian ppl to act out all of the fears they spoke about and jacob when he spoke about it and was crying, that was sincere!? What about when they were all asleep hiding out in the shelter on top of each other.. They asked them to all do that..?! Lol.
      I think its amazing that they r doing this all through social media and it seems affective but i havent decided whether i think it will be or not...

      2 hours ago ·

    • Ingrid Brooks That's why I changed it to questionable. I never said it shouldn't b stopped. I merely said that I don't think this is the right way to go about it. I never said it was made up either Jen! It is definetely sincere. Shit things are happening...but however, as I said I don't think this is the way to go about this issue. It's good that it has made individuals aware-where do we go from here? It is absolutely important where the money goes-but I don't think enough of it is going to the right place!
      2 hours ago · · 1

    • Ingrid Brooks As I said diplomatic resolution...
      2 hours ago ·

    • Ingrid Brooks Have u seen all the suffering in other African nations and that dictators rule most of the African continent? I'm not saying we don't need to help these people, but we need to look at the bigger picture 
      AND IT CONTINUED TO ANOTHER LINK: 

      ON FINANCE -

      All of the IC financial documents are accessible. I find the whole argument in stating overspending in administration and film maikng to be a total joke. Alot of such opinions coming from people who have probably never worked for and NGO and haven't the first clue of how much it costs to run a campaign.

      www.invisiblechildren.com/financials

      anyone who takes a little more time to consider a financial report will realise that if you are given $20, you spend $15 and keep $5 to be spent on further campaigning DOES NOT make your organisation FOR PROFIT.

      $13,765,177 IN
      $8,894,630 OUT
      $4,870,547 REMAINING ASSETS.


      What is so frustrating about people latching onto the finance complaint is that the general population will happily sit back and watch the ads in the superbowl which are how much for 30 secs??? - 3million dollars? What is more ridiculous is that WE FIND THIS ENTERTAINING?!

      We are quite comfortable watching and accepting multimillion dollar profit driven corporations wasting unimaginable wealth without ever being put up to as much scrutiny or force to justify how they have spent money on promoting trashy consumerist products.

      Yet the IC develop a documentary that is OF COURSE designed and calculated to be emotive and inspiring yet is drilled relentlessly. If only we could display more rigorous passion against the sickening capitalist world. It seems that our humanity finds it far more justifiable to be inspired to buy pepsi.

      Violence, military and peace talks.

      The IC has for years advocated for a peaceful resolution to this conflict. I in no way at all condone acts of violence in order to bring Joseph Kony to justice. Nor do I believe in a vengeful violent reaction. Statements such as 'I hope he burns in hell' are not the beliefs that I hold to ANY degree. However, it is naive to think that more lives will not be lost in ending a destructive systematic injustice that has operated in the region for so many years.

      The IC also campaigned relentlessly for the success of the Juba Peace talks between 2006 - 2008. But alas, Kony failed to sign the final peace agreement on multiple occasions. In an idealistic world, Kony and his powers would surrender peacefully and there would be no need for any further bloodshed. It is my understanding that the IC would like a technologically based approach to tracking Kony. AGAIN the organisation and myself DO NOT believe in such a violent resolution despite what impressions may be held by some who have watched the documentary.

      Social Media -

      Sure there will of couse be some people who jump into the campaign without a greater knowledge of the issue. To be frank, I would rather see people pour there energy into the IC campaign then their insular little lives.

      Social media, as I am sure you are aware, has incredible influence that can be used in both positive and negative ways. I do not agree that posting the video in social media sites is 'not the right way'. I think that it has been inspiring and interesting to watch so many people become passionate about something apart from themselves, no matter wether they support the IC or not.

      Hugh Evans, founder of the Oaktree orgaisation and the Global Poverty project succinctly defined how I too feel,

      "Great to see the public discussing #KONY2012.

      My hope is that the amazing energy it has generated will cause people to ask -- "why can Kony and the LRA still operate? and how can we support investment in strong governance and the rule of law to create long-term change?"

      My perspective is that Kony and the LRA are a byproduct of poor governance and a lack of the rule of law in the region.
      ...
      We should support the people of Uganda to invest in education, healthcare, the public service and a stronger government bureaucracy in the north.

      Here is a good link- http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/03/08/440851/defense-kony-invisible-children/?mobile=nc

      I also think it's great to see the mainstream media engaging in debate around African development, and the Invisible Children team should be encouraged for their capacity to get the issue on the agenda." - Hugh Evans.


      ALSO,

      It is a sad sad day when people we result to defining an issue far greater than their own self indulgent existence by naming it "phony". In my mind it resonates other such bigoted, one lined presumptious bull as expressed by other less conscientious people . TONY ABBOT - "Boat people"???!

      Not a personal attack but to all, just remember that what you say on facebook is on a public forum and a very powerful tool. You have a responsiblity to make sure what you say is well thought out and justified not a one line slogan. Be intelligent, researched and properly informed before you let your fingers run away with your ego.

      I will be supporting the IC campaign. I will also be supporting many other campaigns that work to improve the Human Rights of ALL people in the developing world and otherwise as I have done for 10 years and will continue to do as my chosen profession.

      If this 27 minutes has begun to bring such issues in to light not just in Uganda or Sudan. Not just in Africa. But also for the greater awareness of the ridiculous imbalance that we see in a world today, then the effect of the campaign on a purely human level is commendable.
      · · · · See friendship · about an hour ago


    • Ingrid Brooks
      How long did this take you to research. We clearly don't agree on the issue and this is probably in itself not the best forum to do this on. I think private messages in the future would be much better. Firstly let me just...See more


    • Lusie Vulatha
      This is not a personal attack. And is that a serious question or a sarcastic one about how long did it take me to research. I'm confused. If you write something like "phony knoy" in a public forum you are inviting people to scrutinise or ag...See more


    • Lusie Vulatha also, this is talei not lusie. wrong computer!

    • Ingrid Brooks Talei give me time....

    • Talei Rose Vulatha Going out, I'll read your message when I get home. Gotta say though, I love the firey convo.

    • Ingrid Brooks In a nutshell:

    • Ingrid Brooks I was inviting people to challenge me, not judge me telling me I have self indulgent existence! Jesus Talei Rose Vulatha hit it where it hurts next time! How is that an attack. I urge you to 'research' the word attack and I think you'll find that it is synonymous with your judgmental contrived comments.

    • Ingrid Brooks LET ME ALSO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR THE RECORD I KNOW PHONY WASN'T THE RIGHT WORD!! I CHANGED IT TO QUESTIONABLE! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO STATE THAT!!!!!! IT"S LIKE YOU THINK I AM POLITICALLY INFERIOR TO YOU..moving on

    • Ingrid Brooks You talk about financials a lot...which were published by invisible children-need I say more?

    • Ingrid Brooks
      I would like to also say where did u pick these superbowl examples up from? Who finds it entertaining? I don't plus, I can't identify I don't understand the scale, last time I checked I wasn't AMERICAN.Another American reference for u: this...See more


    • Talei Rose Vulatha
      Ingrid. This is not a note about you and me. I respect you and realise that we more often than not have different persepectives. This is about an issue far greater than us. Maybe you need to take a moment to calm down and realise that this ...See more


    • Ingrid Brooks I think you'll find large scale campaigns are put to scrutiny...BUT WE WANT IT! don't fix it if it ain't broke!

    • Ingrid Brooks That is how u were saying it? if anybody reads it you utilised my comments and turned them into an attack on me. Now you're telling me i'm pretty much selfish because I thought it was about me! I can't bloody win!

    • Talei Rose Vulatha Yet again I will affirm. This is not about you. Calm down.

    • Ingrid Brooks I will finish up in a minute...i'm completing calm. Just getting my points across! Just let me finish. If you want to resume this let's do it over private message okay?

    • Talei Rose Vulatha I don't particular want to deliberate this over private messages to tell you the truth. I have been watching everyone fighting out personal crap on facebook and I find it ridiculous. I am sorry if you believe yourself to be a part of the generalisations I am making.

    • Talei Rose Vulatha I felt I needed to offer my perspective. That is all.

    • Ingrid Brooks
      I know Invisible Children advocate for this campaign to be resolved peacefully. I merely said I don't agree with how it is being implemented. I was talking about the ramifications of putting it onto social media platforms. Very very clever ...See more


    • Ingrid Brooks This was freaking awesome...

    • Talei Rose Vulatha I am not comparing YOU to tony abott. Goodness Ingrid. This is agonising. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU.

    • Ingrid Brooks I didn't say me-read the comment. Agonising.

    • Ingrid Brooks Didn't say it was about me, you're making at about me. I thought it was about me cos u took my words and added "ego" and the like. You're trying to make me look like a silly pants!! You and I both know we're better than this. Let's move on. As I said-good convo, no hard feelings!

    • Talei Rose Vulatha Not specifically your ego. Im not trying to do anything to you.

    • Ingrid Brooks I know you're not-it could have been worded better tho.

    • Talei Rose Vulatha It is pent up fury from watching what has been happening. Im sorry if you have taken a personal offence to my wording. However it is a commentary, my perspective and my understanding. Like you said, everyone should be entitled to that.

    • Ingrid Brooks That's okay. Yes everybody should be entitled to that.
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      HAVE A READ AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK. This is not the whole conversation in its entirety. As you can see a lot of my comments were cut off. As I said, we are all entitled to our opinion. It is healthy to question and debate the world around us. I do believe Talei and I got way to personal, that is really not healthy for a political debate. 

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